Big Stupid Fights Over Unemployment Benefits After Firing RPh

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Big Stupid is stupid again!

My unemployment compensation was denied. I appealed, went to the hearing, had an anxiety attack, and it was denied again.  I plan to appeal again… as much as I cannot bear another second of reliving this nightmare that has ruined me.

I am unemployed. I have applied to more than 20 positions and contacted more than 15 employers.  I have $60 in my bank account and no presents under the tree for my 3 little children.

I had told my PDM the day before I had my nervous breakdown at work: I don’t think I can work tomorrow. I am under too much stress. I’ve had 2 hours of sleep.

He said, “I don’t think I can find anyone to cover on a Sunday. Ask your partner.”

Said partner had been doing flu clinics on every day she had off. She was tired, over-worked. I felt horrible. Her mother had recently passed away. She has 3 children, as well. I asked her, she said she would, but I felt so bad that I decided I could do it, I should do it. I was strong enough to do it. Oh hell was I wrong.

I did it, and you know how that turned out. I had a nervous breakdown, an emotional outburst over my stressful situation when it became more stressful that Sunday morning. It resulted in my termination.

If I had known that a company, that profited on a false product, they call “Wellness”, cared so little about my well-being, I would have never worried for one second about keeping their pharmacy open for them. I was terminated and Unemployment Compensation was denied, because I “behaved in a manner that was not aligned to the interests of my employer”.

Well, FUCK them. I am not a robotic pill dispenser, I am a human being damn it! I feel pain and stress and don’t always make the best decisions when I am afflicted by situations beyond my control.

So I beg every pharmacist out there, when Rite-Aid begs and pleads with you, tells you that you have an obligation to keep their pharmacy open, feel absolutely no guilt in saying, “NO!” They will not lose one second of sleep worrying about you or your “wellness”.

I think I am already blacklisted. I am a dangerous pharmacist, because I am not a mindless robot.




  1. pharmaciststeve  •  Dec 10, 2012 @1:23 pm

    I would explore WORKMAN’S COMP.. the harm was done ON THE JOB…

    I would also look into filing a OSHA claim.. here is the mission statement of OSHA

    Under the OSH Act, employers are responsible for providing a safe and healthful workplace.

    Send me a email – you need to get a hold of whistleblower… has a group of attorneys that are taking the chains on for such actions.

    I will get you two together…

    I have said before.. that it is just a matter of time before a RPH is found curled up in the fetal position in the corner of the Rx dept… IMO…this is getting close..

    To the rest of you out there.. in “Rx hell”.. this is a good example of fact that your “good will” with the chains has a half-life of a few hours… it is all about what you have done TODAY for them…

    It is interesting that this DM could not find someone to replace this RPH on a Sunday.. but.. could find someone to replace him/her .. after they fired him/her..

  2. Broncofan7  •  Dec 10, 2012 @4:20 pm

    What an awful story. Pharmacist Steve is 110% correct… Pharmacists:You’re simply an employee; a rented license needed to run a department and nothing more. Your goodwill will not be returned in kind. Don’t work extra and don’t offer to work extra for these corporate bean counters who are ruining our profession. They can contact a temp service to cover their extra shift or simply hire more floaters.

  3. pharmacygal  •  Dec 10, 2012 @5:40 pm

    Pharmacists, please take a mental health day if you must. You cannot take care of patients when you are at the breaking point yourself. Talk to a trusted friend, your minister, or a counselor. Don’t bottle it up inside and try to muddle through on your own. We are people not robots. That store isn’t going to shut it’s doors just because you call off one day. That District Manager might have to fill a few scripts.

  4. pharmacyslave2000  •  Dec 10, 2012 @6:34 pm

    I think most store pharmacists forget that the PDMs are indeed licensed pharmacists, fully capable of filling rx’s when need be. Guess what, if they can’t find someone to cover the shift, it’s their obligation to do it! I know they would rather die than have to put in an honest days work behind the bench but to bad!
    I fear that the day of a pharmacist “going postal” is quickly approaching. The stress levels are out of control. My situation is better than most but I’m very lucky and it seems I’m in a very small minority. I don’t know that there is an easy answer to our problem. The company WILL work you until you break. It’s up to each person to determine what they are capable of and when they need to stop. DO NOT offer anything or it will eventually become expected of you. You are not obligated to help your employer out. They sure as hell won’t help you out. Remember we are EMPLOYEES, nothing more, and we can be terminated just as easily as any cashier at McDonald’s. It’s a very scary situation for us right now and for the future.

  5. bcmigal  •  Dec 11, 2012 @12:04 am

    To paraphrase John Bradford: there, but for the grace of God, go I. This could be any one of us. Some of us might turn our anger and frustration inward. Others may take it out on our spouses or children. Find help immediately. Get an attorney and psychiatrist or therapist. Do this today, not tomorrow. We are all pulling for you.

  6. Pharmacist Bob  •  Dec 11, 2012 @10:19 am

    These companies that spin wellness as their mission are full of shit. If wellness was their mission they would be truly a health food type establishment, the true mission is evidenced from the amount of alcohol/tobacco/unhealthy food products etc that line the rows and rows of their stores , the true mission is greed for profits. What pisses me off about these pathetic companies that rent our professional services is they blame us for not keeping the customer happy with the less than realistic labor force that they provide. They provide less labor why—it’s all about the money the greedy bastards that they are.Unionize nationally and we can restore back to an earlier start date-LOL

  7. Peon  •  Dec 11, 2012 @12:00 pm

    Pharmacist Bob is right on the mark! All this wellness stuff is a front for the corporation to make more money. These corporations don’t give a dip about their employees. For all you new grads, there is one major thing you need to know if you go to work for a chain. These chains don’t ‘care’ anything about you. You are just a body to fill a position and a number in their database. With the current saturation of the pharmacy market with pharmacists, you are starting out in a bad position. Look out for yourself! Don’t concern yourself with whether the chain makes any money or not. Don’t concern yourself with trying to be everything to everyone. And, don’t let the stress get to you. If the job is too stressful, don’t wait too long like the pharmacist in the story before switching jobs or finding a totally different line of work. Your mental health is far more important than the job and the money. I guarantee you that the pharmacist in this story will back me up on what I just said. This applies not only to young pharmacists but to all pharmacists. And, don’t ‘kill’ yourself for these damn corporations. This is not the old world of business that your grandfather worked. In those days, you could put out extra work and move up in the company. You are already a pharmacist and you are already at the top. Where can you go from where you are? To being a DM? Who in their right mind would want to be a lackey for these chains? Their job is worse than ours. You will hear all the BS about the company and how the company is proud of you and how valuable you are to the company. If you believe this stuff, then you are nuts. There are only two things these companies value: money and image. That is it and nothing more.
    This is a really sad story about the pharmacist. It highlights the stress of working in some of these chains. This is why I have worked and raged against chain pharmacy for years. It is the ridiculous work environment in which no human should be exposed. There are few healthcare providers working in conditions that are like ours. I don’t see how things can keep going in the chain pharmacy world the way it has been going. But, I could be wrong. Pharmacists keep working under these conditions and things only get worse. These chains have started metrics and looks like they are gearing up for more and more metrics. The next step will probably be an analysis of our keystrokes. It is easy for them to record our every keystroke. I would not be surprised if they did not start showing us analysis of our keystrokes and telling us what we are doing wrong and that we better ‘get those numbers up’.
    Now….JP…maybe we need to start a fund for this pharmacist? All us pharmacists can chip into it. I will be glad to give some money.

  8. pharmaciststeve  •  Dec 11, 2012 @6:02 pm

    One thing that I think that is being overlooked.. is the standardization of the Rx dept within a chain and the delegation of much of the “work” to techs.

    Just think about it… how much are you really needed in the Rx dept…

    I have temp for the last 4+ yrs.. I have temped in chain stores.. I don’t know how to operate the computer system, I have trouble finding the stock on the shelf, I don’t have the authority to operate the register.. I have to search to find anything out front.. I don’t have to write a drug order.. some IVR’s are a real pain in the ass.. but typically I figure them out…

    I can answer the pt’s/tech questions about medication.. don’t ask me about TP billing.. The techs handle all the basic functions.

    That is the way that the chains want it.. the RPH is probably the most replaceable body in the Rx dept… especially with the growing surplus.

    This is probably why you are seeing the DM’s “making over” the techs… and stroking their egos… Even a certified tech.. is a loss ball when new to a Rx dept.. just like I am ..

    If you – as a RPH – do more counseling.. you will be creating your own “brand”.. something that the chain can’t take away.. If they fire you… you go to the nearest competitor and get them to hire you.. since you have a following…

    Why do you think that when a chain buys out a indy.. they require the indy to sign a non-compete for three years?

  9. the truth  •  Dec 11, 2012 @6:55 pm

    My sympathies to this pharmacist. If you work in a chain and you work full time or are tired after a shift and your boss calls not answer the phone and/or just say I have plans. In my district, not just at my chain, there are dozens of pharmacists who do not work full time and when I was sick not one of them stepped up to come in for me. Yet I am one of the first people called to help out those part timers who call out or have unexpected chores to do for their kids. Best advice, get the phone numbers of a good rph and call them first and see if they can help you out. I no longer volunteer b/c lately I am overworked, overstressed and any more hours and I will regret it. Get a lawyer sir ASAP.

  10. bcmigal  •  Dec 12, 2012 @2:13 am

    Peon, the metrics are already more sinister. We now see a timer for how many calls in the voice mail and how long they have been there, how many labels are returned to the typist and for what reason, how many times we have called a pt and when and if they actually answered.
    Steve, I have trained many techs and I can fix a TP issue faster than anyone in the district. But that is not job security. And I cannot think of what is

  11. Unemployed  •  Dec 12, 2012 @10:26 am

    Thank you all for your insight and assistance and advice. Its a tough thing to go through. Most attorneys don’t understand the pharmacy industry. Its nice to have folks who have my back, who know what it is really like.

    The rather unfortunate part of my situation is I live in a “non-right-to-work/employment at will” state. Every attorney I speak to asks if I had a contract or belong to a union. Nope. “Ah well you have no case, they can fire you if they don’t like the color of your shirt.”

    I am lucky, my parents have given me money to get by and I cashed out my tiny IRA. I think it is time to find a new road without pharmacy practice in my life.

    I don’t know if I ever want to go back to work for another corporation. I am a bit traumatized. We have no rights anymore, we gave them all away to the corporations.

    If the world does in fact end on December 21st it will be a huge relief. I don’t think it will, though.

  12. RPh Ed  •  Dec 12, 2012 @10:29 am

    IMO the key is getting the state boards to see the light of day. It may take getting OSHA involved. The state boards have hearings and meetings on a preset scheduled basis. Maybe a pharmacist should go the the meeting and if needed bring a journalist of some sort. Hold the feet to the fire that need to be held there. The state boards claim that they are there to safe guard the public. If that is true and enough pharmacists show up with enough literature proving that work conditions affect patient safety then maybe the ball can start rolling. With the Massachusetts state board being in the spotlight for ignoring patient safety then maybe this is the time to strike. The state pharmacy associations should also be in on this if they want our continuing membership. I know as an pharmacist who worked for one of the biggest chains I can attest to the fact that anything you do over and above your normal duties only gets you a thank you, no slack for anything that you fail to do or any error judgments you make. I agree with pharmaciststeve the techs have more value than a RPh, the DMs will get them to spy on you and if you complain about a tech’s poor performance good luck. More than likely the tech will find out and make your working environment even more stressful. Trust no one you work with, store managers, techs, DMs, etc. Do not get caught up in department or store drama. Go to work, do your hours, honor the profession, and keep your sanity. Eventually the chains will run through enough of us that they will have to change their attitude, even with the surplus.

  13. Pharmacist Bob  •  Dec 12, 2012 @11:18 am

    Hope, prayer and a 10cents won’t get you a cup of coffee. I am calling for nothing short of the equivalent of nuclear war on the chains. They deserve to be destroyed and rebuilt under the guise of our profession!

  14. MSDEMEANOR  •  Dec 12, 2012 @6:45 pm

    I am not sticking up for the chains . They are reprehensible.
    However we only have one side of the story.
    He got fired for exploding at his supervisor. What did he expect?A promotion?
    He makes over 100K a year and has 60 bucks to his name?I hope he managed his pharmacy
    better than his finances.
    Pharmacists think the world will collapse if they call in sick. This guy should not even
    have asked his boss.He should have just called in and said he had a fever.
    It is the DMs job to find someone.Not mine. Its their ass if there is no pharmacist to open.

  15. Unemployed  •  Dec 12, 2012 @8:37 pm

    You are mean MSDEMEANOR. My nervous breakdown was about 5 years in the making along with the financial problems… so yea you got me there. I didn’t have a bad relationship with my supervisor and my nervous breakdown was not sparked by anything work related at all.

  16. Whistleblower  •  Dec 12, 2012 @9:48 pm

    This could be anyone of us on any given day… Enough Said!! @unemployed … Don’t hesitate to call me if I can assist in anyway.

  17. Peon  •  Dec 12, 2012 @10:30 pm

    Unemployed, I was under the impression that your job was the cause of your nervous breakdown. But, you say that your nervous breakdown was due to other factors. It appears that you became unable to do your job and they terminated you. If you worked for me and you were a mental wreck, then I would get rid of you. A business is a business.
    I must agree with MSDEMEANOR that something is wrong if you only have $60 in the bank. Unless there has been bad sickness in your family, then you should have had some money.
    This should be a lesson to all you pharmacists out there that is making 100K or more per year and you are not saving any money. You should have enough money in the bank to last you for 6 months, should you become unemployed.

  18. bcmigal  •  Dec 12, 2012 @11:34 pm

    I do not think anyone has a right to be judgmental. No one knows what a person’s life is really like. I bet you if met me in person you would think my own life was just a bed of roses. Don’t even get me started….
    Unemployed, I urge you to seek help asap. I do not want to read in this blog or elsewhere that something terrible happened to you.

  19. pharmacyslave2000  •  Dec 13, 2012 @8:22 am

    I feel bad when I hear these stories, I really do. But we are only hearing one side of the story and things aren’t always as black and white as they are made to seem. People come to this forum for validation, to tell their story and have everyone else tell them, “you were right, it will be ok”. I feel like we’ve become nothing but a bunch of whiners. Everyone here was required to work in a pharmacy while in school and you knew EXACTLY what you were getting into. Are things worse now than 10 years ago? Hell yeah, and it’s going to continue down that path and there is nothing that is going to change it. Unionization? Give me a break. Unions haven’t done anything good in this country for years. They are business killers, only concerned with collecting dues and causing some trouble when it gets them media coverage. Do you want a union to help you get a lunch break? You can already take a break if you’d like. It’s probably not going to be a 30min. uninterrupted break but take one. I work in a store that averages 2500 per week and I’ve yet to miss a meal, a real meal. I bring food from home, put it in the microwave and when it’s warm I eat it. That’s right, I sit down and eat it. No one’s going to come to the store and tell you it’s time to take a break. We’re all adults. If you need to eat then eat! If you have to piss then go to the bathroom! For the love of God people, do what you have to do. The world won’t stop turning because you had a sandwich. No union is going to save you. If anyone here read Drugmonkey’s blog you know that he was fired by RAD for VERY questionable reasons and that he was also part of a union. While the union got him a nice lunch break they did NOTHING when he was fired.
    Secondly, people here post about “taking back the profession”. What exactly does that mean and what are we going to do with it when we get it back? Anyone have any ideas on how to generate a decent profit on anything other than dispensing? Does anyone really want the profession back? Retail pharmacy is dying a slow, painful death. The only thing keeping it alive are the 65 and older crowd who have techno-fright. Those who absolutely have to speak with someone for every transaction. The young were raised on the internet where information is everywhere. They won’t care about going to a brick-and-mortar business to speak with the “druggist”. They’ll use mail-order and get info. elsewhere.
    Thirdly, we all need to realize that we are simply employees, bound by the rules of the corporations we work for. Honestly, can we really consider ourselves “healthcare professionals”? We work in the most unprofessional environment imaginable. We are not autonomous practitioners, we are employees of multi-billion dollar public companies. I think we need to understand that this is who we are. Many of us are so jaded and angry because we expect more. We were told by the pharmacy schools how important we are to the healthcare system when, in reality, we are the lowest on the totem pole.
    I could go on but I won’t. I’m sorry if this comes off as to harsh but I think it needs said. I don’t have any answers as to how to fix the profession, in fact, I believe it is irreparable. We’ve passed the “point of no return” long ago. My advice to others has always been to do the best you can and don’t give the corporation you work for a reason to fire you. Keep a low-profile and don’t rock the boat to much. We don’t have many options anymore. The pharmacy schools have killed off demand by flooding the market and I don’t believe the surplus has peaked yet. We should be thankful we still have something, especially a job that pays well into six-figures. Don’t do something stupid and ruin it for yourself.

  20. Pharmaciststeve  •  Dec 13, 2012 @9:08 am

    @slave… you are 100% correct.. the peak will happen around 2017-2018 at ~ 4000 excess Rph’s per year than demand.. presuming that Obamacare doesn’t change demand in a positive or negative way.. each is possible.

    If a RPh can’t stand up for themselves .. on the smallest things – taking a pee – having lunch – they are never going to join a union.. they are never going to go on strike.. even if they did join one. IMO > 50% would break the picket line anyway.. making any action useless.

    There has been talk of a union/guild since I was in school 40+ years ago.. Didn’t happen then.. probably not going to happen now.. With 24 states and counting passing laws about “at will” employment… unions are either going to have to change their business plan or died a slow death.

    IMO.. wages across the board – every industry – as long as we are in high unemployment.. are going to recede ..

    Across the board in healthcare .. we are looking at who ever is willing to accept the lowest allowable as being in a network. Just look at all the ads for Medicare advantage programs – Zero additional premiums… $0.01 prescriptions.. additional benefits not provided by traditional Medicare.

    The Medicare folks don’t seem to be able to figure out that all those “extra benefits” are probably being paid for by fewer access points, lower quality service and some rationing of services. They will probably get a rude awakening when they start running into PA after PA for many services/procedures that they need ..that are a tad bit expensive.. or never notice that their doc had elected not to do some tests.. until they get the diagnosis of ” I didn’t think you had that and it is too late to treat it.. get your affairs in order ..”

    IMO.. it is the template for where Obamacare is going. At this point in the journey.. those of us in healthcare can just tighten our seat belts and try to hold on.. Most crashes usually has some survivors and a lot of innocent victims.. and survival has more to do with luck than skill or good planning…

  21. Peon  •  Dec 13, 2012 @9:30 am

    pharmacyslave2000..Gosh! What a great post! There are always two sides to a story, and you are certainly right that things are not always black and white. People do come to this forum for validation of their ideas. They do come here to whine. About the unions, they are company killers. And, yes, we can all get a lunch break. I do! And, I someone does not have to tell me to take it. I go to the restroom when I need to go. And, you know us older guys have to go more often. :) :)
    Begrudgingly, I have come to the conclusion that you are right about the ‘profession’. What are we going to take back? Have we been whining and wanted it like it was 40 years ago? It will never be back like it was 40 years ago. The world has moved onward and so has pharmacy. Pharmacy has changed and will continue to change. That change may or may not be for the betterment of us pharmacists. I am not sure that retail pharmacy is dying. The older crowd will keep it alive for a long time in the future. The more savey internet crowd may change the face of pharmacy and retail as we know it.
    I must agree that we are the ‘lowest on the totem pole’. But, I have always thought we were the lowest, even 40 years ago. I always felt that we were kind of outside the healthcare loop. The pharmacy schools have tried to get us in the loop, but with very limited success. And, I think you are right about us having gone past the point of fixing the profession… “it is irreparable “. I think you have some good advice and I am pasting it below:
    “Keep a low-profile and don’t rock the boat to much. We don’t have many options anymore. The pharmacy schools have killed off demand by flooding the market and I don’t believe the surplus has peaked yet. We should be thankful we still have something, especially a job that pays well into six-figures. Don’t do something stupid and ruin it for yourself.”
    A lot of us pharmacists, and I must include myself, have complained and whined for years. Nothing has really changed to improve our work environment. It is fruitless to keep complaining. We are not anything more than employees in big corporations. It makes no difference whether you clean the floor or you have a PharmD, we are still ‘employees’. When pharmacists gave up the dream of owning their own pharmacy and decided they wanted to work for chains, is when pharmacy, as we knew it, died. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot work for someone else, yet operate the pharmacy like you did own it. Not going to happen! We wail against the chains and their bad treatment. We whine that we are not allowed to be professionals within these chains. I have not found this to be the case where I work. I can be as professional or non-professional as I want to be. It is really up to me. I don’t like the corporate crap, but that is just a part of being an employee. Business is business! I think that a lot of us forget this. We are working in a BUSINESS! No matter how you ‘cut it’, every aspect of healthcare is a BUSINESS. Until or if we ever get full socialized medicine, it will be a business. And, I expect that there will still be business aspects within a socialized system.
    You had some good advice: “Don’t do something stupid and ruin it for yourself.” I have had a difficult time abiding by this motto. For a long time I tried to stay out of trouble. Recently, I contacted the head of the pharmacy division. Luckily not anything bad happened to me. I still do stupid things trying to get things changed. But, I am trying to keep my mouth shut and keep my job. :) :)
    I feel bad for ‘unemployed’. But, from what I can gather, I think he may be his own worst enemy and it is not RiteAid.

  22. Whistleblower  •  Dec 13, 2012 @11:29 am

    Let’s stop the unkind words toward Unemployed. You don’t know the entire story… I’m sure SHE would like to have that day back to do over.

  23. pharmacyslave2000  •  Dec 13, 2012 @2:28 pm

    I don’t think anyone posting here is being intentionally malicious towards Unemployed. I see these posts often lately on JP’s blog from angry pharmacists who’ve been treated poorly, or worse yet, fired from their job. However, we only get that person’s side of the story and it’s always skewed to make the corporate entity out as the big, evil meanie. As has been stated ad nauseum , we are EMPLOYEES bound by the company rules. No matter the type of company in whatever industry there are rules for the employees to follow. If “Unemployed” had a meltdown at work that was as bad as was insinuated then being fired may have been the appropriate recourse. You can’t ALWAYS blame the company. We need to take on the responsibility, as supposed “professionals”, to follow the rules whether we agree with them or not. If the speed limit is 35 and I get caught going 65, I can’t get angry at the cop for giving me a ticket! Same thing here.
    If you’re going to consider yourself a “professional”, then act like one. In my younger days, I didn’t act like one at all times. It cost me a job also but I landed on my feet in a better position. I’m not sticking up for the corporations but they are doing what businesses do. They are not operating so that you can play “pharmacy owner”. They exist to make money, plain and simple. There will be bullshit metrics and other nonsense just like there is in EVERY CORPORATE ENVIRONMENT IN THE COUNTRY! It’s your choice on how best to deal with it all.
    Whistleblower, you are correct in stating that we don’t know the entire story and we probably won’t unless “Unemployed” feels the need to tell it, but when you admittedly act inappropriately don’t be surprised if there is some criticism and lack of compassion.

  24. Unemployed  •  Dec 13, 2012 @4:21 pm

    I don’t really need to explain myself to any of you. Paying 2 mortgages for a year will do that to your finances. Taking bad financial advice will do that to your finances. Having just one adult bringing in a payceck for a family of 5 will do that to your finances.

    I acted inappropriately for all of about 2 minutes, so it could happen to almost any of you.

    My point to JP being, don’t go to work if you’re in the middle of a shit storm. You aren’t obligated to keep the corporation’s business going, because they care nothing for the business going on in your life. They won’t cut you break, so don’t bother giving them the benefit of the doubt.

  25. Pharmacist Bob  •  Dec 13, 2012 @7:34 pm

    pharmacyslave2000 We may be employees of multi-billion dollar companies, but these companies cannot exist without renting our professional license, so it should be a 2-way street, we are employees, but they are the employer of professional employees required by law to operate their business and without said employees they are just a big 7-11 store. If we act as a whole unit, and they understand the word “Team”, guess which team would win? You have the wrong idea about unionization. Business killers you say, if the business of a pharmacy company was killed, the prescriptions are still alive and it takes pharmacists to fill those scripts somewhere, so business killed is business created elsewhere. If my company closed I would walk across the street to do the same business, and guess what, I would not give a bloody shit that they went out of business, just like they did not give a bloody shit about their professional pharmacists that they fired etc. for questionable reasons. Businesses will do what it takes to compete and if they have union employees they will do what it takes to be viable, or they will be killed and good riddance. Hasta la vista, baby. The idea here is a national union and all chains would be unionized, so no one company would take a hit. Professional parity is what I am talking about nationally. Why would you care about the business being killed of a giant and greedy corporation that treats its professional pharmacists in a less than professional way? Forget all that you are jaded about unions for and open your mind for minute. If you were a part of the union you are the union and decide what to do, so if you do nothing, the only one to blame is yourself for inaction. By taking back our profession, we would put the p back in professional. We would dictate how long it should take for DUR, not a 4-second metric at WAG. We would not allow threats to the pharmacists of losing one’s job for BS metrics like did you say the customer name, or coax enough people for robot-fill enrollment. We would have a real professional environment to work in, it is our profession, not an environment of 1 pharmacy call, 2 pharmacy calls. The reason the DrugMonkey fell was due to the comment that he was going to kick the scabs ass or something akin to that and RAD construed that to be a threat of violence. His union could not do anything as there was nothing in the contract that allowed threats of violence to scabs. In the future it might be a good idea to have some leeway for outbursts etc that may occur from time to time in the contract. I recommend a new national pharmacist organization that would go hand in hand with a national union to lobby effectively for national laws etc. The pharmacist surplus would be equalized by requiring the school funding corporate giants to hire the surplus that they created and that will cause the schools to decrease output shortly. LOL

  26. Fired  •  Dec 13, 2012 @7:44 pm

    Unemployed, like you I too was fired although not from an acute breakdown. I had been a pharmacy manager for years. I was given a stream of technicians who were either brand new to the profession or had very little experience.i had no time to train them & they had no company training. I was literally trying to prevent horrible mistakes and fixing the mistakes that I had already happened. I got in horrible trouble when I told one tech “you don’t even know what you don’t know”- this was after this tech had given a copy of an rx by reading it off the computer screen to another pharmacist. When I told her she did not have that authority she was dismissive in saying I was busy & the other pharmacist needed the copy “right now” so I can just call them back if I wanted.

    I informed my RPM of this & other similar situations. After having to report a particular glaring mistake by a tech that involved giving the wrong medication & having the patient take it. That started a discussion on how many mistakes had been made. I was ultimately fired because I had not reported these errors within the 48 hours of their occurrence. Since many were not done on my work days & I often didn’t find out about them until days or weeks later, this was just an excuse to get rid of me.

    My crime was being outspoken & insisting on a certain level of professionalism. I also found the line I decided I would not cross when it came to work. I was not going to allow techs & clerks to function as pharmacists. That was a rampant problem within my division. As hard as it was to be fired, I feel proud I maintained my dignity & professionalism. I also received unemployment since my firing was not supported by objective evidence.

  27. pharmacyslave2000  •  Dec 13, 2012 @8:29 pm

    “Unemployed”, you correct on all points. You do not owe anyone an explanation of your situation and you should not go to work during a “shit storm”. Furthermore, you do not owe your employer anything more than showing up for your scheduled shift and doing your job to the best of your abilities while following all applicable rules and laws. Let your unfortunate circumstance be a warning to all others. I wish you the best.

  28. Peon  •  Dec 13, 2012 @9:17 pm

    I think we all get the point that Unemployed is making. Don’t go to work if you don’t feel you are capable of acting like a professional pharmacist, and you are not obligated to keep the companies business going. Unemployed did not intend to whine or look for sympathy, but to offer advice.

  29. Pharmslave  •  Feb 25, 2013 @2:46 pm

    I have been fired this year twice before probation was over
    I started an email for someone and was fired because even though the original goal was to check 250 prescriptions for a 7 hour day they increased it to 350 and fired me due to lack of productivity
    The other position I was fired because I asked a tech to redue a hyperailmentation which was incorrect and got in trouble because the TPN was shipped out late
    I also had a mini breakdown during my last week at DR in NYC The store I was floating at- the pill counter was broken, the cashier kept on disappearing, the printer jammed and no one knew where more printer lablels were
    I just felt so frustrated –it was a 12 hour store I ended up weeping

  30. the truth  •  Feb 25, 2013 @7:14 pm

    50 rxs an hour, I hope it wasn’t retail. Don’t let the store get the best of you. I have been there many times. New job, same problems. Techs who disappear. I page them.repeatedly. You are not paid to wander off. This weekend one was complained about for doing that. Had a call out recently, got severely backed up but I just put a smile on my face and explain the situation to cxs. Usually they are understanding. If not, oh well, sucks to be them. You cannot do it all. Just do your best or try to get a job in industry. Retail and mail order/omnicare are getting difficult to stay in b/c of the increase in demands on workload and decrease in help. Sooner or later, it has to give and the public is going to pay the price.

  31. anonymous  •  May 22, 2013 @2:41 pm

    Just curious, to Unemployed and all those who lost jobs or were fired,have you found a job yet? It’s been several months for me and not even an interview. It is so bad I am thinking of another career.

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